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General Discussion / Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
« Last post by hubel585 on April 25, 2017, 04:30:48 PM »
Here is picture of a brake on 12ga FH with real hot loaded
hollowbase lead slug, brake needed more clearance
for  the expanding slug.




Here is the  before and after of  375 HE cases,   
 2 on left necked,  2 on right formed in hydro die after necking..



Here is pic of 416 HSM second from left we are experimenting
with, going to see if we can make the ultimate 416 ELR case.
Can be 3.60" to 4.00" long, a long one pictured.
Holds over  280 gr ball powder under bullet. In the picture,
1st case is 416 HE, 2nd 416 HSM, 3rd 375 HE, 4th 378 WEA.

416 HSM will get 400gr to 4100 plus without needing BMG action,
470 gr 3800 plus , it may be the ultimate target, singleshot 416..
Case will work in fat bolt actions, with heavy enough barrel
to have good, milder, barrel harmonics and srtill  be under 50 lbs.
A lot of the 2 mile type shoots are adopting 50lb limit.



Here is picture of  the 416 HSM fireformed once,
next to bmg case we make it from and as we
improve wildcatting process next few weeks
some specs may make small changes, now from
base to shoulder is 3.45", case 3.97" long. Ed..





Manson has 416 HE and 408 HE prints, as well as 375 HE
He can also make you a resize die reamer from that info.
We got 700 cases in 416 and one more pass if 408s wanted, ,
Going to do lot more cases for these 2 sizes also,
Questions, PM or email. ph 989-644-5228..

Here are final specs for 416 HE.
Length 3.32",  belt diameter  ,655",  base dia  .635" ,
length base to to shoulder 2.860" , 30 deg shoulder.Ed
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Your Firearm Projects / Re: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE/700HE; Big Bores---
« Last post by hubel585 on April 25, 2017, 04:29:49 PM »
Here is picture of a brake on 12ga FH with real hot loaded
hollowbase lead slug, brake needed more clearance
for  the expanding slug.




Here is the  before and after of  375 HE cases,   
 2 on left necked,  2 on right formed in hydro die after necking..



Here is pic of 416 HSM second from left we are experimenting
with, going to see if we can make the ultimate 416 ELR case.
Can be 3.60" to 4.00" long, a long one pictured.
Holds over  280 gr ball powder under bullet. In the picture,
1st case is 416 HE, 2nd 416 HSM, 3rd 375 HE, 4th 378 WEA.

416 HSM will get 400gr to 4100 plus without needing BMG action,
470 gr 3800 plus , it may be the ultimate target, singleshot 416..
Case will work in fat bolt actions, with heavy enough barrel
to have good, milder, barrel harmonics and srtill  be under 50 lbs.
A lot of the 2 mile type shoots are adopting 50lb limit.



Here is picture of  the 416 HSM fireformed once,
next to bmg case we make it from and as we
improve wildcatting process next few weeks
some specs may make small changes, now from
base to shoulder is 3.45", case 3.97" long. Ed..





Manson has 416 HE and 408 HE prints, as well as 375 HE
He can also make you a resize die reamer from that info.
We got 700 cases in 416 and one more pass if 408s wanted, ,
Going to do lot more cases for these 2 sizes also,
Questions, PM or email. ph 989-644-5228..

Here are final specs for 416 HE.
Length 3.32",  belt diameter  ,655",  base dia  .635" ,
length base to to shoulder 2.860" , 30 deg shoulder.Ed
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AR45 Discussions / AR45 at Knob Creek
« Last post by Spitfiresubgun on April 12, 2017, 10:31:18 AM »
I was at the Knob Creek Subgun Nationals this passed weed for the Spring shooting competition. Haven't been very competitive in the last year and a half, due to recuperation from a slight case of Cancer. Caught it early and its gone for now but getting back to running and gunning has been a long road, but happy to be able to travel it.

My deepest Thanks to Rudy the Mad Machinest from Macon Armory. Who's superior uppers function flawlessly, For my AR 45 and My wife's Shorty 9 mm upper on her Quarter Circle 10 Glock mag lower.

The COF:
Your subgun and mag staged at pos 2 at position 1 pick up an unknown bolt action ,223 cal rifle take 1 shot each on 2 targets 50 yards away . Oh wait you dont get a sight picture and it had iron sights.

At pos 2 load your subgun clear the stage through the window the pepper popper activates the teeter totter with 4 targets one round to neutralize 2 second window to shoot them.

At pos 3 engage all 14 targets steel mus fall to be defeated (as on all stages unless noted) Some targets a directly behind others!

At pos 4 shoot all pepper poppers some are set heavier than others

Pos 5 is on the run from pos 6 as you leave 4 one small whit torso steel target will come into view behind a large red no shoot torso 2 shots on the target to defeat it. before you begin 6 another white torso steel target becomes visible 2 round to defeat.

Pos 6 dueling tree targets start on the right of the tree shoot them all to the left once done shoot them back to the right then engage the two long range target to that you shot with the rifle but using your subgun now at 37 yard distance, one shot each to ring/swing the steel

My results for the 2017 Knob Creek Subgun Nationals:
23rd out of 33    Closed Bolt Irons       AR 45
10 out of 28       Closed Bolt Optics     AR 45
33 out of 37       Open Bolt Irons.         Spitfire 9mm
3rd out of 36      Open Bolt Optics       Spitfire .45
8 out of 25         Unlimited.                   Spitfire .45 w green laser

Yup, 3rd place came with a plaque and a check$$$.

I placed 10th 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdHm-vQOdeQ&t=20s

She placed 5th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzDaYzxmyU
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Pistol Discussions / Glock 19 Slide
« Last post by plucas on March 23, 2017, 06:43:58 AM »
So I have been working on modeling my slide on my Glock 19. I am wondering if anybody else has done this because I would like to verify some of my dimensions. The extractor spring area is a big one I'd like to check. Hope somebody else has done this  ;D

Only parts that aren't finished on this model is sight cuts and factory serrations.

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General Discussion / Gunsmith Class: Custom Smith and Wesson Revolver
« Last post by DRC on March 12, 2017, 11:28:36 PM »
Deep River Customs is announcing a new class offering: Custom Smith and Wesson Revolver

Course Description:


The 7-day course will provide students with the instruction needed to bring a Smith and Wesson Model 929 to ultimate competition readiness. Included in the cost of the course will be a Smith and Wesson model 929, and parts necessary to perform all of the tuning and modifications. All of the necessary tooling and parts will be provided as well. The student only needs to arrive with a willingness to learn!
The initial blocks of instruction will introduce students to the design and function theory of the Smith and Wesson revolver as well as detailed disassembly/reassembly. 
Attention will then turn toward competition tuning of the studentís revolver. Inferior MIM internal parts will be discarded, and quality bar-stock hammers, triggers, double action sears, firing pins, and cylinder stops will be installed. With the new parts in place, the revolver will be tuned for ultimate competition function and reliability. Topics during this portion of the class will include cylinder timing and the proper fitting of hands and double action sears. 
As the next phase of the class begins, students will then be coached through the installation of a custom DX style front sight base on a milling machine. This base allows for full interchangeability of front sights. This will be paired with a Bowen Classic Arms rear sight to allow for the most flexible and highest quality sight arrangement available. 
During the fourth phase of the course, students will receive instruction on more advanced topics such as barrel and cylinder installations. Students will have the opportunity to install a barrel on a provided S&W frame if they do not wish to change the barrel on their project 929. 
During the final work portion of the class, students will have the opportunity to modify the existing barrel on their Model 929 to a profile that more closely resembles the lighter contour of the Model 627 Pro models. Students may also choose to shorten and re-crown the existing barrel. Professional quality barrel markings will then be reapplied. Students who are satisfied with the factory contour of the Model 929 are welcome to keep the barrel in factory configuration. 
Topics such as caliber conversions and metal finishing will be discussed as time permits during the duration of the course.
On the final day of class, the class will travel to a local range for test firing of the finished project revolvers! 


Tentative class date for 2017 will be July 31-Aug. 4th, 2017. Please contact us if you would like more information: info@deeprivercustoms.com
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General Discussion / Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
« Last post by hubel585 on March 12, 2017, 01:30:04 AM »
Picture of fellows at Vestals Gunsmithing test firing  585 HE

they built for a guy. They got 750 gr to almost 2800 from

ultra short barrel, not a full load . A regular barrel  would be

 over  2900,  14000 ft lbs with full load..





Picture of our 375 HE cases, with little 378 WEA on left.

Middle case is with 330 gr, right case is  400gr bullet.




Here is picture of out 375HE testgun, in heavy t-hole stock.

So far 340 gr to 3700 and 360gr 3600.




Next 416 HE target case, these run through the hydro-die,

test gun done,will complete testing soon, to confirm specs.

When specs set, info will be sent to reamer guys

Soon will have  408 HE with specs set up also, for guys,

Smaller case 416s and 408s can be reamed out for

our  bigger case .Ed


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Your Firearm Projects / Re: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE/700HE; Big Bores---
« Last post by hubel585 on March 12, 2017, 01:28:50 AM »
Picture of fellows at Vestals Gunsmithing test firing  585 HE

they built for a guy. They got 750 gr to almost 2800 from

ultra short barrel, not a full load . A regular barrel  would be

 over  2900,  14000 ft lbs with full load..





Picture of our 375 HE cases, with little 378 WEA on left.

Middle case is with 330 gr, right case is  400gr bullet.




Here is picture of out 375HE testgun, in heavy t-hole stock.

So far 340 gr to 3700 and 360gr 3600.




Next 416 HE target case, these run through the hydro-die,

test gun done,will complete testing soon, to confirm specs.

When specs set, info will be sent to reamer guys

Soon will have  408 HE with specs set up also, for guys,

Smaller case 416s and 408s can be reamed out for

our  bigger case .Ed


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thats too bad.

One other thing I found was a last round hold open follower for AK47s. In theory would something like this hold a possible solution? It could easily be 3D printed!.. if someone would provide the specs.
http://www.primaryarms.com/weapontech-ak47-enhanced-bolt-hold-open-follower-3-pack-afwtakf3

I still feel like the AR45 is a great thing. And given all the love out there for SBRs and pistol cal PDWs, that this entire thing remains worth keeping on.

I have looked at B&T, HK, A whole host of AR mods, and the AR45 here is just the best idea- especially when you think about the money.

Only trying to promote a more perfect AR45 here. no worries.

 8)

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Pistol Discussions / 80% 1911 3 point jam problem...
« Last post by michigancanadianbrett on February 19, 2017, 06:25:34 PM »
Hey guys first post on the forum but long time reader. I've recently finished my first pistol (and when I say first I've never even owned one before) but am unable to get it to feed properly. Here's what I've checked thus far:
1) magazine (brand new Remington 7 round) it has the origional styled lips.
2) magwell angle at 17.25 deg
3) feed ramp angle at a touch over 31 deg.
4) barrel seat/bridge sitting at .078" from the top of the frame
5) ejector removed and it will go but it is still super "clunky" and not a smooth action whatsoever. I think this may be part of the problem but not the root cause.

Any further help would be glorious.
Thanks in advance.

-MCB
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AR45 Discussions / Re: MP5/ AR .45 project
« Last post by Elbryan9 on February 04, 2017, 09:50:13 AM »
Looks like a really nice set-up. How well does it shoot?
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