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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2010, 06:50:07 AM »
$250 is a bit steep. How about the CAD file for sale?
I might release the CAD file at a later date.

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2010, 08:01:18 PM »
I'm don't know much about the HK, but it looks a lot like an AR.  What's the difference between the HK and the AR?  Aside from the engraving, it looks like an AR lower to my (untrained) eye.

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2010, 06:14:01 PM »
$250 is a bit steep. How about the CAD file for sale?
I might release the CAD file at a later date.

With the appropriate limited release license agreement. I'd be cool with a restriced solely for personal use license with no distribution clause.

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2010, 01:34:25 PM »
Justin,

Awesome work.  Who does the laser engraving for you?  Is it done before or after anodize?

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2010, 02:27:09 PM »
pretty sure justin does his own laser engraving and it would be done after anodizing - http://www.cncguns.com/forum/index.php?topic=200.0

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 09:04:08 PM »
What kind of pistol grip is on there?

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2010, 08:07:16 AM »
What kind of pistol grip is on there?
It's a HK style grip that I got off gunbroker a while back.


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I'm don't know much about the HK, but it looks a lot like an AR.  What's the difference between the HK and the AR?  Aside from the engraving, it looks like an AR lower to my (untrained) eye.
The HK is basically an AR.  The HK has a flatter mag well (mean the angle is not as steep).  The HK lower also has an extra hole in the lower on the buffer tower that I assume is for holding the buffer retainer in place.  The other differences are minor and only cosmetic. 

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Awesome work.  Who does the laser engraving for you?  Is it done before or after anodize?
I laser engrave my parts at work.  I always laser engrave after anodizing.
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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2010, 11:32:50 AM »
Justin,

I've been tasked with finding a laser engraver for our shop.  What make/model is yours?

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2010, 01:55:14 PM »
It's an RMI laser.  We paid right at $40,000 for the laser.  I don't have access to the model right now.

Justin

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2010, 07:29:57 PM »
I'm gonna guess that the hardest part of this build was dropping the +/- 3 grand on the factory upper ;)  What an awesome project.  I found your site a few months ago and I love the AR-45, especially with the suppressor you made.  I came back to the site a few days ago and saw the 416 clone and I got wicked jealous.  I love how you nailed every detail, right down to the "Read Operators Manual Before Use."  IA lot of people complain about the "fad" of gas piston ARs, but I love them, and the 416 is probably my favorite.  The Germans make awesome stuff.

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2010, 07:47:58 PM »
...The Germans make awesome stuff.

Is that Agent Bauer talking or is it really Vince:o ;D
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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2010, 10:55:19 PM »
where might someone get the trigger guard ? Is that an hk copied part /or ?It is the first TG I have seen that isnt a turd...

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2010, 09:59:08 AM »
The new group buy thread is located here... http://www.cncguns.com/forum/index.php?topic=1973.0

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2010, 05:19:43 PM »
howdy,,  do you sell complete AR15 slickside lowers ? wanting to build a vietnam retro.


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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2010, 05:50:31 PM »
howdy,,  do you sell complete AR15 slickside lowers ? wanting to build a vietnam retro.


Sorry, no I don't.

Justin

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2010, 05:58:33 PM »
Justin,

In looking to source some parts for my lower would you mind sharing what you used to complete your clone?

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2010, 08:19:05 PM »
I used a standard AR15 lower parts kit.  I picked up the complete upper assemble a while back.  In order to complete a HK clone you really just have to keep an eye out for the parts.... assuming you want it to look as genuine as possible. 

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2012, 10:30:16 PM »
I used a standard AR15 lower parts kit.  I picked up the complete upper assemble a while back.  In order to complete a HK clone you really just have to keep an eye out for the parts.... assuming you want it to look as genuine as possible. 

Justin
What kind of CNC will do this type of milling and how much are they? Out of curiosity why can't you supply some of the AR 15 Gun Makers. I am almost possible the majority of your AR 15 gun makers do not make there own lower receivers and buy from an outside source. It is also my understanding that there is only handful of manufactures that build these lowers which seems odd. I live 8 miles from Spikes Tactical and I know for sure they dont make their own and they are a big player.


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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2012, 12:23:13 PM »
I use a vertical machining center that cost nearly $100k new.  For really high production, most companies use horizontal machining centers which start at around $250k.... most being around $500k.  I do sell the 11% HK416 cloned lowers.  Contact me if you are interested.... justin@cncguns.com 

Customer service takes a whole lot of time so most big manufacturing companies don't like dealing with the little guys who only want to buy a handful of lowers.  The big manufacturers like concentrating on one thing and that is manufacturing... it's the only way to keep production cost down.  It's the same reason why you can't walk into a Ford or Chevrolet production plant and ask to buy a car.... after all, it would be cheaper than having to go to a dealership right?  However if you want to buy 20,000 cars then I'm sure they will talk to you.  I've noticed most dealers mark stuff up 100% to cover all the customer service and other sales details.  This is needed because it can sometimes take more time talking to the customer than what it took to produce the actual product. 

I hope this helps.

Thanks,
Justin

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What kind of CNC will do this type of milling and how much are they? Out of curiosity why can't you supply some of the AR 15 Gun Makers. I am almost possible the majority of your AR 15 gun makers do not make there own lower receivers and buy from an outside source. It is also my understanding that there is only handful of manufactures that build these lowers which seems odd. I live 8 miles from Spikes Tactical and I know for sure they dont make their own and they are a big player.

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Re: HK416 Clone
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2013, 07:10:38 PM »
  Justin, will the new batch of HK416 clone 80% lowers  accept standard M4/AR15 mags  like the GENII PMAGS?