SIG P228 Frame


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My current project is the SIG P228.  I'm working on the solid model of the frame.  I have a pretty good start on the frame, but I still have some tweaking to do.  I uploaded a couple pics of what I have so far.  This is going to be a really exciting project.  It's going to be a few weeks before I'm ready to start any machining on this project.  Once I get the model complete, I'm going to go back and double and triple check all my work to insure it's correct.  Progress updates will be uploaded as I work on this frame.

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I've done some more work on the P228 solid model.  I still have a little more work to do, and then I'll be ready to double check my work to insure everything is correct.  I hope to start the machining in 3-4 weeks.  I've uploaded a couple new pics of the work I've done lately...

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I now have the P228 solid model nearly complete.  I still have a few minor features to add to the model, and I will add new solid model pics once the model is 100% complete.  Since there are only minor things left on the model, I was able to start the machining.  I spent a full day just programming the 1st operation.  This 1st operation ended up having 16 tools.  After I finally got the program finished, I cut the stock for the frame and got the CNC setup to start the 1st operation.  The stock I ended up using was 5 x 1.500 x 6.68 6061T6 aluminum.  I probably could have used a smaller size, but that was the closest thing I could find without ordering special material.  Here is a pic at the start of the 1st operation...

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This is a pic I took as the 1/2 hog endmill was roughing the profile.  You can see that it is starting to take shape...

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And here is what it looked like after the 1/2 hog endmill was finished cutting...

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This is a pic after the 1/4 carbide endmill made some clean up passes and milled some detailed areas...

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I then used a 1/4 ball nose carbide endmill to 3-D profile the whole frame.  I decided it would be easier to do this rather than trying to program all the curved surfaces and different step heights that the P228 has.  Profiling the whole frame probably took a little longer to machine, but it gave the frame a nice even finish and I didn't have to worry about blending different tools in.  Here is what it looked like after the profiling was finished...

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I then started drilling all the holes.  Come to find out, nearly every single hole on the frame is a different size.  I was only able to use the same drill for 2 holes.  Here is a pic after all the holes were drilled...

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I then used some smaller endmills to machine some detailed areas and to cut the rails.  This is a pic after all this was finished...

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I then used a 1.5 x .375 woodruff cutter to mill the undercut area for the main spring seat.  I had to make a special undercut tool (1/4 x 0.100) to mill the undercut inside the mag catch release hole.  This undercut is what keeps the mag catch from coming out.  The side of the mag catch has a detent, and this detent catches on the undercut.  This is a bad picture, but maybe you can see the areas I'm talking about.  You will be able to see these areas better in later pics...

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I bead blasted one of the frames and took some good pics with a better digital camera.  Here is how the frames compare...one is bead blasted and one is straight off the machine...

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The next few pics are some better close up shots...

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That is the end of the 1st operation.  I will have to design a special fixture/jig to hold the frame for the 2nd operation.  I'm going to try and get this fixture made this week, so I can start the 2nd operation next weekend.  For the 2nd operation, I will be machining the right side of the frame.  And for the 3rd operation, I'm thinking of machining the magazine well, since that area will still be solid and I won't have to worry about a drill "walking" off position.  Then for the 4th operation, I'll be machining the top of the frame.  There may have to be a 5th operation, but I'm not sure yet, it just depends on how much I can get machined on the 2nd operation.


I got the fixture made for the 2nd operation.  I kept the design as simple as possible, because the 2nd operation programming was going to be almost as complicated as the 1st operation.  This fixture will allow the frame to set flat and square in the vice while I complete the this operation.  Here is a pic of the fixture and the setup that I used...

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Here is a pic at the start of the 2nd operation...

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I used a 1/2" hog endmill to contour around the outside of the frame so most of the excess material could be removed before I started flycutting the frame...

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I then used a 3" shell mill to flycut the frame down to the correct thickness...

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After the frame was milled to the correct thickness, I came back with the 1/2" hog endmill and roughed some more of the material out...

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Then I used a 1/4" carbide endmill to make some finish cuts on the frame...

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It was now time to 3-d profile the frame.  As usual I used a 1/4" carbide ball nose endmill to profile across the whole frame.  This is what the frame looked like once the profile was finished...

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I used some smaller endmills to make some clean up cuts around the pistol grip and to also cut the slide rails...

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I then drilled the holes and made some special cutouts.  I had to make a special undercut tool to machine the undercut inside the pocket where the fire control parts fit.  I also used a 60 degree dove tail cutter to machine the area where the support plate slides in to keep the mag release in place...

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Here is a closer view of the undercut area...

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And this is a closer view of the 60 degree dove tail cut...

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That's the end of the 2nd operation.  Here are few better pics of what the frame currently looks like...

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I put some of the parts on the frame to see how it looks so far.  The slide can't slide all the way back yet because the top of the frame isn't cut out yet, but you should be able to get a feel for the way it's going to look.

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For the next operation I'm going to be cutting the mag well.  I'm going to design another fixture for this operation.  I'm going to design the fixture so I can use it for the 3rd operation and the 4th operation.  I hope to have this fixture designed and machined this week, and next weekend I should be able to get another operation finished.


I finally found time to work on this project some more.  I've been really busy lately, so I haven't had time to work on the P228 project as much as I would have liked.  But hopefully, I'm about to be back on track.  I got the fixtures made to hold the frame for the rest of the operations.  The fixture that I designed will allow me to complete the rest of the operations without having to machine any more special fixtures.  The fixtures have a boss that will fit in the take down lever hole in the frame.  I also drilled 2 holes on each of the fixtures.  These holes will allow me to locate the correct angle for the rest of the setups.  Below you will see some pics of the fixture...

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For the 3rd operation I machined the bottom of the mag well.  The mag well is pretty tuff to do since it is so deep.  There was no way that I could machine the whole mag well at one time, so I machined half of it on the 3rd operation, and I'm going to finish machining the top of the mag well on the 4th operation.  The ideal thing to do, would be to use a wire EDM machine.  But since I don't have access to a wire machine, I'm having to machine the mag well out.  After the mag well is finished being machined, I will have to use a file to file out the corners from the back of the mag well.  Below you will see pics of the setup that I used.  The pics are after I had already ran the 1/2 hog endmill...

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I had to buy a super long 1/2 hog endmill to reach all the way down inside the mag well.  I machined down to a depth of 2.5"  After I had the mag well roughed out, I used a 4" long 3/8 carbide endmill to make the finish passes down inside the mag well.   I bought a 6" long 23/64 drill to drill out most of the material down inside the mag well.  I tried this on the first frame, but I had problems with the drill, so I decided to just use the super long 1/2 hog endmill to remove all the material.  Come to find out, this was better since I'm no longer having to worry about the long drill "walking" off position.  Below you will see a pic after the bottom of the mag well was finished being machined...

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Below you will see a better pic after the 3rd operation...

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For the 4th operation, I machined the top of the mag well.  I used the same endmills on this operation as what I used on the 3rd operation.  I first used a regular length 1/2" hog endmill to remove the material as deep as I could, and then I went back with the long 1/2" hog endmill to remove the rest of the material.  Finally, I used the long 3/8" carbide endmill to make the finish passes.  Below you will see the setup that I used...

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Here's a pic after the regular length 1/2" hog endmill milled at a depth of 1.300" deep...

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And here's what the frame looked like after the 4th operation was finished...

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I took some better pics to give a better feel of the machining done so far...

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The next operation I'm going to be machining the top of the frame.  It won't be long before I'll be putting this frame together and shooting it for the first time.

 


On the 5th operation, I machined the top of the frame.  I once again used the fixture I made for the 3rd operation.  I just moved the dowel pins to the new location and the fixture was ready to hold the frame horizontal in the machining center.  Here is what the setup looked like...

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I used a 1/2" hog endmill to rough out most of the material from the dust cover area...

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Then I used a 1/4" carbide endmill to mill the slot in the back of the frame where the hammer slides in, and to mill the slot for the trigger and some other clean up passes.  Here's a pic after that endmill was finished...

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Next I needed to mill the undercut for where the trigger bar needs clearance inside the frame.  I was thinking I might have to grind a special undercut tool for this, but I got lucky and was able to use one of the undercut tools I made during the 1911 project.  In the pic below you can see this undercut tool before I made the clearance cuts...

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I then used a 1/4" ball nose carbide endmill to 3-D profile the radius inside the dust cover.  I could have used a big 5/8" ball nose endmill, but I though it might be quicker to just profile this area.  Here is what it looked like after this tool...

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For the 6th operation, I machined the big slot on the side of the frame.  To cut down on the "elbow grease" of filing the corners out of the mag well, I used the same undercut tool as in the 5th operation to undercut the mag well around the big slot.  This will allow me to only file the mag well corners out of the top and the bottom of the mag well.  The center of the mag well will be square from the undercut tool.  Here is a pic at the start of this operation...

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And here is what the frame looked like after this operation was finished...

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In this pic you can see how the undercut tool milled out the radius on this operation...

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I once again took better pics to show the work done so far...

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I have one other thing to machine before this frame is finished.  I have to use a 4" diameter saw blade to machine out the area in the back of the frame for the clearance of the hammer.  I have this saw blade on order, but it didn't show up in time, so I will have to wait until it arrives to do any more work.  It should be here next week, so by next weekend, this frame should be finished. 

 


The 4" saw blade was delivered earlier this week, and this weekend I was able to set the frame up for the last machining operation.  The saw blade will machine the clearance cut for the hammer.  Here is a pic of the setup I used...

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And here I stopped the machine to take a picture right before the 4" saw blade went inside the frame to machine the clearance cut...

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It's hard to show exactly the cut that the saw blade made.  But maybe this next picture will make it a little clearer.  Notice the shiny section inside the frame...

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Since I made this clearance cut, the hammer will now slide all the way in, and the little hammer stop part will slide all the way in as well.  The next pictures I'll be showing will be of the frame with all the parts installed.  Once I test fire this pistol, I will strip the frame back down and black anodize the frame, and refinish some of the internal parts.  Once the pistol is completely finished, I'll take some final pictures.

 


Well, I just learned a whole lot about how the P228 functions.  The parts kit I used was a kit from Dlask.  The parts aren't the quality as those from SIG, but I was able to use every single part in the kit.  I've heard of some people not being able to use all the parts in the kit and have to end up buying some of the parts from SIG.  Either I got lucky with my Dlask parts, or I done more hand fitting than those other guys.  The best thing about having to hand fit every part, is that I was able to learn a whole lot about how the P228 functions.  The barrel I got from FAC.  The barrel is 100% perfect.  I didn't have to modify the barrel at all.  The FAC barrel also dropped right into my original SIG P229 that I made the P228 model from.  I have hand cycled the P228 several times, and it functions perfectly so far.  Sometime in the next week, I will find time to take my new P228 pistol out for her first shots.  After the test firing, and if no problems are found, I will refinish the pistol to make it look alot better.  Here are a few pics of what the pistol currently looks like...

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If you don't count my time and the material cost of the frame I made, this P228 pistol cost me $159.95  The parts kit was $65, and the barrel was $94.95  Not a bad deal for a P228 huh?

 


To give you a better idea of how all the internal parts fit together, bybon from the Roderus forum has allowed me to post his pictures here on my website. 

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I finally found time to test fire the pistol.  I first tried to use the magazine that came with the Dlask parts kit.  I heard of a few people having problems with these mags, so I took along my SIG P229 mag just in case I had problems.  After I shot the first round using the Dlask mag, it jammed on me.  I think the problem with the Dlask mag is that it doesn't have enough spring force to feed the next round.  I loaded the SIG P229 mag up, and fired one full mag with no problems at all.  I loaded the mag up again, and still no problems.  I ended up shooting about 50 rounds with the SIG P229 mag with out one problem.  I didn't want to shoot the pistol any more since it was still just raw aluminum, and I was afraid the steel slide would wear down the frame.  After I got home, I cleaned the pistol and stripped it back down to the bare frame.  I took the frame to the shop and bead blasted it one last time and then black anodized it.  I thought it came out really good.  I was going to re-parkerize some of the Dlask parts, but I think I'm just going to leave the parts the way they are for now.  I may re-finish the hammer and the trigger, so at least those 2 parts will look a little better.  I put the pistol back together and below are a few pics of what the pistol looks like finished...

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Since I know the solid model that I created of this frame is good, the solid model file and the SolidWorks E-drawing file is now available for download.  I hope you enjoyed this project as much as I have.